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« on: January 01, 2010, 02:25:00 AM »633
Fittings | Valves | Specialty Fittings and Valves / Re: Thermal Expansion Tank Replacement
« on: January 01, 2010, 02:18:23 AM »
Here's a video we put on youtube showing what a defective thermal expansion tank has inside of it.
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Water Heaters | Tank Water Heaters | Tankless Water Heaters / Plastic Dip Tube Failures - Still a problem in 2010
« on: December 31, 2009, 11:27:00 PM »
Two days ago we was called out to Hunters Green subdivision in Independence Kentucky to take care of two plumbing fixtures,
a lavatory faucet and a kitchen sink faucet that had little or no hot water. The kitchen sink faucet, which was a kohler
faucet, was leaking down into the cabinet. I told them they could fix it but 2 years and leaking profusely through the
body?
Anyway, I reached underneath to see if the valve was clogged up, turned out the valve was barely on.
Problem solved at that point, but when I went to work on the lavatory sink faucet, totally different issue. I removed
the flexible supply line and took the stem out of the angle stop, found long and narrow strips of what is obvious; a
failing dip tube.
I had a hunch this was most likely the issue at hand and the statement, "Our water heater was installed in the early
90's" I knew right there and then that I was dealing with an issue regarding that water heater.
15 years after that product was classified as defective, people "still" dealing with this nonsense. The efficiency of that
water heater has to be atrocious at this point, and there's no way of telling how much that water heater is costing to
operate at this point.
This "mistake" with the choice of these non-metallic tubes inside the water heater has proven itself time and time
over, again and again to be detrimental. Of course, they've resolved the issue with a better product, but the cost
savings they was trying to accomplish with going with something cheaper came at a huge cost.
I fully explained this to the property owner and they believed what I had to say, the proof was what was pulled out
of the supply line when I removed it from the faucet. I truly believe they will not replace that water heater until it
leaks, which there is nothing wrong wtih doing so.
This couple is the parents of a customer I worked for on Christopher Drive in Independence Kentucky earlier in the
summer, and that fellow recommended me. Great chain reaction that always works in the favor of keeping a business
going, along with maintaining our reputation in the plumbing business in the Northern Kentucky Area.
a lavatory faucet and a kitchen sink faucet that had little or no hot water. The kitchen sink faucet, which was a kohler
faucet, was leaking down into the cabinet. I told them they could fix it but 2 years and leaking profusely through the
body?
Anyway, I reached underneath to see if the valve was clogged up, turned out the valve was barely on.Problem solved at that point, but when I went to work on the lavatory sink faucet, totally different issue. I removed
the flexible supply line and took the stem out of the angle stop, found long and narrow strips of what is obvious; a
failing dip tube.
I had a hunch this was most likely the issue at hand and the statement, "Our water heater was installed in the early
90's" I knew right there and then that I was dealing with an issue regarding that water heater.
15 years after that product was classified as defective, people "still" dealing with this nonsense. The efficiency of that
water heater has to be atrocious at this point, and there's no way of telling how much that water heater is costing to
operate at this point.
This "mistake" with the choice of these non-metallic tubes inside the water heater has proven itself time and time
over, again and again to be detrimental. Of course, they've resolved the issue with a better product, but the cost
savings they was trying to accomplish with going with something cheaper came at a huge cost.
I fully explained this to the property owner and they believed what I had to say, the proof was what was pulled out
of the supply line when I removed it from the faucet. I truly believe they will not replace that water heater until it
leaks, which there is nothing wrong wtih doing so.
This couple is the parents of a customer I worked for on Christopher Drive in Independence Kentucky earlier in the
summer, and that fellow recommended me. Great chain reaction that always works in the favor of keeping a business
going, along with maintaining our reputation in the plumbing business in the Northern Kentucky Area.
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Drain Piping: Copper | PVC | SDR | Cast-Iron | Galvanized | ABS | Vitrified Clay | Concrete | Orangeberg | Lead | Brass / Main Line Clog
« on: December 31, 2009, 09:56:56 PM »
Dunbar Plumbing was called out yesterday to a clogged main drain that is connected to a septic tank. This job was located at State Route 16, Taylor Mill Road in Independence Kentucky.
This is the second time this has happened but over the course of 3 years.
I believe the issue was caused by the mentioning that one of the people who lived there dumped a whole gallon of expiring paint down the laundry tub drain.
This along with a possible issue of buildup the last few feet before entering the septic tank.
Both times, from cleanout to septic tank, I've managed to open this drain at 32' each and every time.
This is the second time this has happened but over the course of 3 years.
I believe the issue was caused by the mentioning that one of the people who lived there dumped a whole gallon of expiring paint down the laundry tub drain.
This along with a possible issue of buildup the last few feet before entering the septic tank.
Both times, from cleanout to septic tank, I've managed to open this drain at 32' each and every time.
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Drain Cleaning Equipment / Clogged Kitchen Sink Drain - Cincinnati Ohio
« on: December 31, 2009, 09:50:45 PM »
Dunbar Plumbing attempted to unclog a kitchen sink drain on Aspen Drive in Cincinnati Ohio on 12-30-09. This property served a two story rental property.
Kitchen sink is on the second floor, directly above the bathroom on the first floor. Attempted to clear from the kitchen
sink, hit hard obstruction at 7 feet. Could not get past, found access point in basement. Attempted to go up and no
result.
Went back to the second floor with equipment (spartan 81 drum machine) and actually got the drain flowing. Was
draining through the access hole in pipe where second attempt was made in basement, which revealed a second clog.
Attempted to go through access without luck, could not go downward, only upward. Found another access point where
prior attempt was made to clear 2" galvanized piping. Could not direct cable to bottom of vertical stack.
Go back upstairs to run water...drain is now clogged.
Take machine from basement to 2nd floor (upon approval of
property owner) as a last ditch effort to maintain this drain to stay open.
Got drain open again, head back downstairs and try "again" to get bottom of stack open. No result. Scheduled to come
back on saturday to remove base of vertical stack in basement ceiling to rework piping in order to clear drain and create
access point in piping for future cleaning.
What is most likely going to happen is my work on this piping is going to clog the upstairs piping again. In my professional
opinion, this piping, all of it needs to be replaced but I'm respecting the wishes of the property owner as they do not want
to replace this entire piping system as it will be heavy damage to the walls in 2 rooms, possibly 3 to do a total replacement.
My time proved quite expensive to peform these duties last night but I cannot blame the property owner for trying, because
if I could clear those two hardened areas in the drain, it would be open for a considerable amount of time after cleaning.
The problem? The tenant on the second floor rarely does dishes, rarely uses that kitchen sink. With galvanized piping this is
horrible situation as it will cause any dirt/debri to slowly harden up in the drain over time. That drain system being used a lot
and daily is a better situation.
The building next door to this one is totally identical, same problems and I've already replaced a significant amount of the
kitchen sink drain in that structure.
One think I made sure to let the property owner know; If I can't get that drain open in the first hour, it most likely means
there's big trouble in little china, and it is most likely going to lead to bigger problems, like replacement of the piping.
I recommend this in this situation because eventually this piping arrangement will be replaced in this structure.
Kitchen sink is on the second floor, directly above the bathroom on the first floor. Attempted to clear from the kitchen
sink, hit hard obstruction at 7 feet. Could not get past, found access point in basement. Attempted to go up and no
result.
Went back to the second floor with equipment (spartan 81 drum machine) and actually got the drain flowing. Was
draining through the access hole in pipe where second attempt was made in basement, which revealed a second clog.
Attempted to go through access without luck, could not go downward, only upward. Found another access point where
prior attempt was made to clear 2" galvanized piping. Could not direct cable to bottom of vertical stack.
Go back upstairs to run water...drain is now clogged.
Take machine from basement to 2nd floor (upon approval ofproperty owner) as a last ditch effort to maintain this drain to stay open.
Got drain open again, head back downstairs and try "again" to get bottom of stack open. No result. Scheduled to come
back on saturday to remove base of vertical stack in basement ceiling to rework piping in order to clear drain and create
access point in piping for future cleaning.
What is most likely going to happen is my work on this piping is going to clog the upstairs piping again. In my professional
opinion, this piping, all of it needs to be replaced but I'm respecting the wishes of the property owner as they do not want
to replace this entire piping system as it will be heavy damage to the walls in 2 rooms, possibly 3 to do a total replacement.
My time proved quite expensive to peform these duties last night but I cannot blame the property owner for trying, because
if I could clear those two hardened areas in the drain, it would be open for a considerable amount of time after cleaning.
The problem? The tenant on the second floor rarely does dishes, rarely uses that kitchen sink. With galvanized piping this is
horrible situation as it will cause any dirt/debri to slowly harden up in the drain over time. That drain system being used a lot
and daily is a better situation.
The building next door to this one is totally identical, same problems and I've already replaced a significant amount of the
kitchen sink drain in that structure.
One think I made sure to let the property owner know; If I can't get that drain open in the first hour, it most likely means
there's big trouble in little china, and it is most likely going to lead to bigger problems, like replacement of the piping.
I recommend this in this situation because eventually this piping arrangement will be replaced in this structure.
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Off Topic - Discussions / What are you Thinking About Right Now?
« on: December 31, 2009, 09:30:15 PM »
I'm thinking about the good tasting pizza I had from Papa-Johns tonight. Little spongey on the ends of the crust but the flavor made up for it. Pizza was 5 dollars more than the competition. That pizza wasn't that damn good.
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Off Topic - Discussions / How was your Day?
« on: December 31, 2009, 09:28:09 PM »
Use this topic to cover everything and anything.
My day, even though I'm in a lot of pain from yesterday (drain cleaning till late) I'm still moving on. Staying productive and keeping away from festivities for ringing the new year. 2010 is here.
Took my dog to the vet, thank goodness it wasn't expensive. Was around $160.
My day, even though I'm in a lot of pain from yesterday (drain cleaning till late) I'm still moving on. Staying productive and keeping away from festivities for ringing the new year. 2010 is here.
Took my dog to the vet, thank goodness it wasn't expensive. Was around $160.
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Fittings | Valves | Specialty Fittings and Valves / Thermal Expansion Tank Replacement
« on: December 31, 2009, 09:20:33 PM »
Dunbar Plumbing replaced a leaking thermal expansion tank off of Ridgepoint drive, in the lakefield subdivision, independence kentucky.
Had a pinhole in the tank, even though the bladder was still functioning.
CPVC was used for the potable water supply and they tried without success to break the connection loose from the brass to cpvc connection.
It proved difficult but we managed to get the defective tank removed and install the customer supplied tank. Also changed the thermostat
settings on the electric water heater. Setting was 150 degrees, lowered it to 120 degrees < Kentucky State Code.
Customer thanked us for our quick response.
Had a pinhole in the tank, even though the bladder was still functioning.
CPVC was used for the potable water supply and they tried without success to break the connection loose from the brass to cpvc connection.
It proved difficult but we managed to get the defective tank removed and install the customer supplied tank. Also changed the thermostat
settings on the electric water heater. Setting was 150 degrees, lowered it to 120 degrees < Kentucky State Code.
Customer thanked us for our quick response.
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National - International - Global News Around the World / Tell me that being president isn't stressful
« on: December 31, 2009, 09:13:59 PM »
If they do an age progression in the next 3, 8 years, he's going to look like a senior citizen for sure.
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Dunbar Plumbing Forums / Re: DUNBAR PLUMBING AROUND THE INTERNET
« on: December 31, 2009, 08:50:34 PM »
DoitYourself.com - Joined back in 2003. Became a member then soon became topic moderator of numerous categories. Moderated there for numerous years until 2008 when I was demodded due to inactivity. I became involved with other interests and could not devote time in an already busy schedule. Attempted to return as a topic moderator earlier this year and could not commit to the time involved to make it count. I post randomly there from time to time depending on the topics of interest. If I see anything dangerous or totally incorrect in the flow of a conversation I will jump in and offer advice. Some conversations and specific topics that I created have seen anywhere in the range of 10,000-15,000 views. A nice community that caters to those in need of assistance with simple tasking of plumbing and other plumbing related topics. Current 'regular' member in good standing.
Stemdoctor.com - Joined back in 2002, the site was a simple, one page design that had more spam than actual posts. Repetitive questions and was difficult. Was promoted to moderator and gained control of posting and attempted to correct. Owner of site tried numerous formats to create a good working forum community. Forum has been disabled since 2008, website is mainly a read only type format.
SelfHelpForums.com - Joined back in 2003, I've seen this site grow in leaps and bounds. Became a moderator soon after I became a member, based on my background of plumbing knowledge. Numerous types of forum softwares have been used for this site, currently in Vbulletin. A couple years ago this site was hit with a severe infiltration of spam/advertising that has suffered as a result, but is doing well now. Great community and has been on the internet for some time. Still an active moderator of this website to this day, participating on the board from time to time.
TerryLove.com - Became a member of this forum community back in 2004-2005. Great community of people there with some longstanding members. Good knowledge base for plumbing products including toilets, water heaters. Joined this site with the relief that I didn't hold the responsibility of being a moderator, which was very refreshing. I reached burnout stage in the years I've been on the internet tasking those talents on numerous plumbing forum communities.
Ridgid.com - Became a member in 2007 to expand into another forum community whereby tools and equipment were primarily the hot topics. Forum Community offers a large base of self-employed business owners which offers a good knowledge base in varying discussions. It is also a forum that I am a member only, and I find it enjoyable/relaxing to entertain comment/discussion at random, participating in topics I feel are worth looking at and belonging to.
PlumbingZone.com - Forum community devoted strictly to professional plumbers only. Active member since 2008, website offers intense discussions of plumbing relating to business, work practice, operations and product reliability issues. Conversations are well developed and offers a good knowledge base. Current and active member.
And here are some others that we belong/participate at:
HolmesonHomes.com
houserepairtalk.com
2 forums in the UK:
plumbing.freeforums.org
www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk
Stemdoctor.com - Joined back in 2002, the site was a simple, one page design that had more spam than actual posts. Repetitive questions and was difficult. Was promoted to moderator and gained control of posting and attempted to correct. Owner of site tried numerous formats to create a good working forum community. Forum has been disabled since 2008, website is mainly a read only type format.
SelfHelpForums.com - Joined back in 2003, I've seen this site grow in leaps and bounds. Became a moderator soon after I became a member, based on my background of plumbing knowledge. Numerous types of forum softwares have been used for this site, currently in Vbulletin. A couple years ago this site was hit with a severe infiltration of spam/advertising that has suffered as a result, but is doing well now. Great community and has been on the internet for some time. Still an active moderator of this website to this day, participating on the board from time to time.
TerryLove.com - Became a member of this forum community back in 2004-2005. Great community of people there with some longstanding members. Good knowledge base for plumbing products including toilets, water heaters. Joined this site with the relief that I didn't hold the responsibility of being a moderator, which was very refreshing. I reached burnout stage in the years I've been on the internet tasking those talents on numerous plumbing forum communities.
Ridgid.com - Became a member in 2007 to expand into another forum community whereby tools and equipment were primarily the hot topics. Forum Community offers a large base of self-employed business owners which offers a good knowledge base in varying discussions. It is also a forum that I am a member only, and I find it enjoyable/relaxing to entertain comment/discussion at random, participating in topics I feel are worth looking at and belonging to.
PlumbingZone.com - Forum community devoted strictly to professional plumbers only. Active member since 2008, website offers intense discussions of plumbing relating to business, work practice, operations and product reliability issues. Conversations are well developed and offers a good knowledge base. Current and active member.
And here are some others that we belong/participate at:
HolmesonHomes.com
houserepairtalk.com
2 forums in the UK:
plumbing.freeforums.org
www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk
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Dunbar Plumbing Forums / DUNBAR PLUMBING AROUND THE INTERNET
« on: December 31, 2009, 05:37:34 PM »
Here is a growing list of plumbing forums we have participated in, currently belong to, moderate or admin across the internet
FindPlumbing.com - Joined back in 2002, participated in forum discussions relating to plumbing. Was promoted to forum moderator within one year. Became forum administrator this year and helped remove/rebuild website from massive advertising/spam infiltration. Website is slowly recovering and maintains 1st page status for keywords "Plumbing Forums" on Google. Hoping to bring back site to the traffic/member interaction it had years ago. Still an active member at this plumbing forum.
Plbg.com - Joined back in 2002, participated in plumbing discussions regarding products, work practices and hotly debated topics about workmanship issues spanning across the globe. Became an advisor and served a short tenure as moderator until longstanding members returned. A current member and advisor to this day.
MasterPlumbers.com - Joined back in 2002- Became a member, quickly became a moderator with John Aldrich (Septic Tank Yank) to help with the volume of traffic. Became forum administrator back in 2007, currently active as a member/administrator.
FindPlumbing.com - Joined back in 2002, participated in forum discussions relating to plumbing. Was promoted to forum moderator within one year. Became forum administrator this year and helped remove/rebuild website from massive advertising/spam infiltration. Website is slowly recovering and maintains 1st page status for keywords "Plumbing Forums" on Google. Hoping to bring back site to the traffic/member interaction it had years ago. Still an active member at this plumbing forum.
Plbg.com - Joined back in 2002, participated in plumbing discussions regarding products, work practices and hotly debated topics about workmanship issues spanning across the globe. Became an advisor and served a short tenure as moderator until longstanding members returned. A current member and advisor to this day.
MasterPlumbers.com - Joined back in 2002- Became a member, quickly became a moderator with John Aldrich (Septic Tank Yank) to help with the volume of traffic. Became forum administrator back in 2007, currently active as a member/administrator.
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National - International - Global News Around the World / Re: Tiger Woods Comeback?
« on: December 31, 2009, 05:31:32 PM »
He'll do just fine when he comes back, and the sponsors that stuck by him will get a bargain on product branding.
The thing he has going for him is the fact that he didn't lose his skills. It's hard to find anyone these days who isn't
cheating/banging someone else's wife.
They'll praise this guy a hero in no time, you watch.
The thing he has going for him is the fact that he didn't lose his skills. It's hard to find anyone these days who isn't
cheating/banging someone else's wife.
They'll praise this guy a hero in no time, you watch.
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National - International - Global News Around the World / Re: Tiger Woods Comeback?
« on: December 31, 2009, 05:27:46 PM »645
Northern Kentucky - Greater Cincinnati News and Events / Re: Whats Happening In Kentucky?
« on: December 31, 2009, 05:23:35 PM »
Any day now we will be getting notification that a nascar sprint series race will be here in 2011-12.
I don't follow nascar much anymore but when that race comes you'll see the same turnout or higher of some of the
biggest races, known for years.
The drivers actually like Kentucky Speedway.
I don't follow nascar much anymore but when that race comes you'll see the same turnout or higher of some of the
biggest races, known for years.
The drivers actually like Kentucky Speedway.