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Dunbar Plumbing Forums / DUNBAR PLUMBING PICTURE ALBUM - IMAGE GALLERY
« on: January 01, 2010, 06:48:17 PM »228
Off Topic - Discussions / DUNBARPLUMBINGFORUMS.COM - Requests for Changes or Features
« on: January 01, 2010, 01:34:26 PM »
Post here anything you'd like to see in regards to changes or features here at the forum.
Chat will not be installed on this website. It has its purpose but not at this time.
Keeping it as simple as possible right now. I do however want to give a similar experience
found at other forums across the internet. Not out to beat/have a better website, just want
the functionality to be there so it serves its purpose. Forums are 75% read only so as long
as that's attained, it's a go.
Chat will not be installed on this website. It has its purpose but not at this time.
Keeping it as simple as possible right now. I do however want to give a similar experience
found at other forums across the internet. Not out to beat/have a better website, just want
the functionality to be there so it serves its purpose. Forums are 75% read only so as long
as that's attained, it's a go.
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Dunbar Plumbing Forums / SITE ISSUES: UPDATED BULLETINS
« on: January 01, 2010, 01:00:22 PM »
This post will give information about any outages/interruption of service that might come about.
Today's issue was temporary and server overload was to blame. 1-01-2010 Site was down for roughly 45 minutes.
By the end of the day I'll make arrangements to make sure that both forums are individual, and there will
always be a backup site to go to.
The other backup site is http://dunbarplumbingforums.com/forums/
It is better for these things to happen now than later.
Today's issue was temporary and server overload was to blame. 1-01-2010 Site was down for roughly 45 minutes.
By the end of the day I'll make arrangements to make sure that both forums are individual, and there will
always be a backup site to go to.
The other backup site is http://dunbarplumbingforums.com/forums/
It is better for these things to happen now than later.
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PLUMBING PICTURES-VIDEOS-DISCUSSION / DUNBAR PLUMBING VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE
« on: January 01, 2010, 02:51:19 AM »
Here are some of our PLUMBING VIDEOS that we have taken over the years.
Many videos that we have are still waiting to be uploaded to youtube. We have been posting raw video footage initially but feel it is time to start "refining" the content before it is
stamped on the internet. Hopefully those who view these videos get some useful information, a few good laughs along the way.
Many videos that we have are still waiting to be uploaded to youtube. We have been posting raw video footage initially but feel it is time to start "refining" the content before it is
stamped on the internet. Hopefully those who view these videos get some useful information, a few good laughs along the way.

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Dunbar Plumbing Forums / DUNBAR PLUMBING VIDEOS | YOUTUBE - GOOGLE | VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE
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Water Heaters | Tank Water Heaters | Tankless Water Heaters / Plastic Dip Tube Failures - Still a problem in 2010
« on: December 31, 2009, 11:27:00 PM »
Two days ago we was called out to Hunters Green subdivision in Independence Kentucky to take care of two plumbing fixtures,
a lavatory faucet and a kitchen sink faucet that had little or no hot water. The kitchen sink faucet, which was a kohler
faucet, was leaking down into the cabinet. I told them they could fix it but 2 years and leaking profusely through the
body?
Anyway, I reached underneath to see if the valve was clogged up, turned out the valve was barely on.
Problem solved at that point, but when I went to work on the lavatory sink faucet, totally different issue. I removed
the flexible supply line and took the stem out of the angle stop, found long and narrow strips of what is obvious; a
failing dip tube.
I had a hunch this was most likely the issue at hand and the statement, "Our water heater was installed in the early
90's" I knew right there and then that I was dealing with an issue regarding that water heater.
15 years after that product was classified as defective, people "still" dealing with this nonsense. The efficiency of that
water heater has to be atrocious at this point, and there's no way of telling how much that water heater is costing to
operate at this point.
This "mistake" with the choice of these non-metallic tubes inside the water heater has proven itself time and time
over, again and again to be detrimental. Of course, they've resolved the issue with a better product, but the cost
savings they was trying to accomplish with going with something cheaper came at a huge cost.
I fully explained this to the property owner and they believed what I had to say, the proof was what was pulled out
of the supply line when I removed it from the faucet. I truly believe they will not replace that water heater until it
leaks, which there is nothing wrong wtih doing so.
This couple is the parents of a customer I worked for on Christopher Drive in Independence Kentucky earlier in the
summer, and that fellow recommended me. Great chain reaction that always works in the favor of keeping a business
going, along with maintaining our reputation in the plumbing business in the Northern Kentucky Area.
a lavatory faucet and a kitchen sink faucet that had little or no hot water. The kitchen sink faucet, which was a kohler
faucet, was leaking down into the cabinet. I told them they could fix it but 2 years and leaking profusely through the
body?
Anyway, I reached underneath to see if the valve was clogged up, turned out the valve was barely on.Problem solved at that point, but when I went to work on the lavatory sink faucet, totally different issue. I removed
the flexible supply line and took the stem out of the angle stop, found long and narrow strips of what is obvious; a
failing dip tube.
I had a hunch this was most likely the issue at hand and the statement, "Our water heater was installed in the early
90's" I knew right there and then that I was dealing with an issue regarding that water heater.
15 years after that product was classified as defective, people "still" dealing with this nonsense. The efficiency of that
water heater has to be atrocious at this point, and there's no way of telling how much that water heater is costing to
operate at this point.
This "mistake" with the choice of these non-metallic tubes inside the water heater has proven itself time and time
over, again and again to be detrimental. Of course, they've resolved the issue with a better product, but the cost
savings they was trying to accomplish with going with something cheaper came at a huge cost.
I fully explained this to the property owner and they believed what I had to say, the proof was what was pulled out
of the supply line when I removed it from the faucet. I truly believe they will not replace that water heater until it
leaks, which there is nothing wrong wtih doing so.
This couple is the parents of a customer I worked for on Christopher Drive in Independence Kentucky earlier in the
summer, and that fellow recommended me. Great chain reaction that always works in the favor of keeping a business
going, along with maintaining our reputation in the plumbing business in the Northern Kentucky Area.
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Drain Piping: Copper | PVC | SDR | Cast-Iron | Galvanized | ABS | Vitrified Clay | Concrete | Orangeberg | Lead | Brass / Main Line Clog
« on: December 31, 2009, 09:56:56 PM »
Dunbar Plumbing was called out yesterday to a clogged main drain that is connected to a septic tank. This job was located at State Route 16, Taylor Mill Road in Independence Kentucky.
This is the second time this has happened but over the course of 3 years.
I believe the issue was caused by the mentioning that one of the people who lived there dumped a whole gallon of expiring paint down the laundry tub drain.
This along with a possible issue of buildup the last few feet before entering the septic tank.
Both times, from cleanout to septic tank, I've managed to open this drain at 32' each and every time.
This is the second time this has happened but over the course of 3 years.
I believe the issue was caused by the mentioning that one of the people who lived there dumped a whole gallon of expiring paint down the laundry tub drain.
This along with a possible issue of buildup the last few feet before entering the septic tank.
Both times, from cleanout to septic tank, I've managed to open this drain at 32' each and every time.
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Drain Cleaning Equipment / Clogged Kitchen Sink Drain - Cincinnati Ohio
« on: December 31, 2009, 09:50:45 PM »
Dunbar Plumbing attempted to unclog a kitchen sink drain on Aspen Drive in Cincinnati Ohio on 12-30-09. This property served a two story rental property.
Kitchen sink is on the second floor, directly above the bathroom on the first floor. Attempted to clear from the kitchen
sink, hit hard obstruction at 7 feet. Could not get past, found access point in basement. Attempted to go up and no
result.
Went back to the second floor with equipment (spartan 81 drum machine) and actually got the drain flowing. Was
draining through the access hole in pipe where second attempt was made in basement, which revealed a second clog.
Attempted to go through access without luck, could not go downward, only upward. Found another access point where
prior attempt was made to clear 2" galvanized piping. Could not direct cable to bottom of vertical stack.
Go back upstairs to run water...drain is now clogged.
Take machine from basement to 2nd floor (upon approval of
property owner) as a last ditch effort to maintain this drain to stay open.
Got drain open again, head back downstairs and try "again" to get bottom of stack open. No result. Scheduled to come
back on saturday to remove base of vertical stack in basement ceiling to rework piping in order to clear drain and create
access point in piping for future cleaning.
What is most likely going to happen is my work on this piping is going to clog the upstairs piping again. In my professional
opinion, this piping, all of it needs to be replaced but I'm respecting the wishes of the property owner as they do not want
to replace this entire piping system as it will be heavy damage to the walls in 2 rooms, possibly 3 to do a total replacement.
My time proved quite expensive to peform these duties last night but I cannot blame the property owner for trying, because
if I could clear those two hardened areas in the drain, it would be open for a considerable amount of time after cleaning.
The problem? The tenant on the second floor rarely does dishes, rarely uses that kitchen sink. With galvanized piping this is
horrible situation as it will cause any dirt/debri to slowly harden up in the drain over time. That drain system being used a lot
and daily is a better situation.
The building next door to this one is totally identical, same problems and I've already replaced a significant amount of the
kitchen sink drain in that structure.
One think I made sure to let the property owner know; If I can't get that drain open in the first hour, it most likely means
there's big trouble in little china, and it is most likely going to lead to bigger problems, like replacement of the piping.
I recommend this in this situation because eventually this piping arrangement will be replaced in this structure.
Kitchen sink is on the second floor, directly above the bathroom on the first floor. Attempted to clear from the kitchen
sink, hit hard obstruction at 7 feet. Could not get past, found access point in basement. Attempted to go up and no
result.
Went back to the second floor with equipment (spartan 81 drum machine) and actually got the drain flowing. Was
draining through the access hole in pipe where second attempt was made in basement, which revealed a second clog.
Attempted to go through access without luck, could not go downward, only upward. Found another access point where
prior attempt was made to clear 2" galvanized piping. Could not direct cable to bottom of vertical stack.
Go back upstairs to run water...drain is now clogged.
Take machine from basement to 2nd floor (upon approval ofproperty owner) as a last ditch effort to maintain this drain to stay open.
Got drain open again, head back downstairs and try "again" to get bottom of stack open. No result. Scheduled to come
back on saturday to remove base of vertical stack in basement ceiling to rework piping in order to clear drain and create
access point in piping for future cleaning.
What is most likely going to happen is my work on this piping is going to clog the upstairs piping again. In my professional
opinion, this piping, all of it needs to be replaced but I'm respecting the wishes of the property owner as they do not want
to replace this entire piping system as it will be heavy damage to the walls in 2 rooms, possibly 3 to do a total replacement.
My time proved quite expensive to peform these duties last night but I cannot blame the property owner for trying, because
if I could clear those two hardened areas in the drain, it would be open for a considerable amount of time after cleaning.
The problem? The tenant on the second floor rarely does dishes, rarely uses that kitchen sink. With galvanized piping this is
horrible situation as it will cause any dirt/debri to slowly harden up in the drain over time. That drain system being used a lot
and daily is a better situation.
The building next door to this one is totally identical, same problems and I've already replaced a significant amount of the
kitchen sink drain in that structure.
One think I made sure to let the property owner know; If I can't get that drain open in the first hour, it most likely means
there's big trouble in little china, and it is most likely going to lead to bigger problems, like replacement of the piping.
I recommend this in this situation because eventually this piping arrangement will be replaced in this structure.
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Off Topic - Discussions / What are you Thinking About Right Now?
« on: December 31, 2009, 09:30:15 PM »
I'm thinking about the good tasting pizza I had from Papa-Johns tonight. Little spongey on the ends of the crust but the flavor made up for it. Pizza was 5 dollars more than the competition. That pizza wasn't that damn good.
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Off Topic - Discussions / How was your Day?
« on: December 31, 2009, 09:28:09 PM »
Use this topic to cover everything and anything.
My day, even though I'm in a lot of pain from yesterday (drain cleaning till late) I'm still moving on. Staying productive and keeping away from festivities for ringing the new year. 2010 is here.
Took my dog to the vet, thank goodness it wasn't expensive. Was around $160.
My day, even though I'm in a lot of pain from yesterday (drain cleaning till late) I'm still moving on. Staying productive and keeping away from festivities for ringing the new year. 2010 is here.
Took my dog to the vet, thank goodness it wasn't expensive. Was around $160.
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Fittings | Valves | Specialty Fittings and Valves / Thermal Expansion Tank Replacement
« on: December 31, 2009, 09:20:33 PM »
Dunbar Plumbing replaced a leaking thermal expansion tank off of Ridgepoint drive, in the lakefield subdivision, independence kentucky.
Had a pinhole in the tank, even though the bladder was still functioning.
CPVC was used for the potable water supply and they tried without success to break the connection loose from the brass to cpvc connection.
It proved difficult but we managed to get the defective tank removed and install the customer supplied tank. Also changed the thermostat
settings on the electric water heater. Setting was 150 degrees, lowered it to 120 degrees < Kentucky State Code.
Customer thanked us for our quick response.
Had a pinhole in the tank, even though the bladder was still functioning.
CPVC was used for the potable water supply and they tried without success to break the connection loose from the brass to cpvc connection.
It proved difficult but we managed to get the defective tank removed and install the customer supplied tank. Also changed the thermostat
settings on the electric water heater. Setting was 150 degrees, lowered it to 120 degrees < Kentucky State Code.
Customer thanked us for our quick response.
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National - International - Global News Around the World / Tell me that being president isn't stressful
« on: December 31, 2009, 09:13:59 PM »
If they do an age progression in the next 3, 8 years, he's going to look like a senior citizen for sure.
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Dunbar Plumbing Forums / DUNBAR PLUMBING AROUND THE INTERNET
« on: December 31, 2009, 05:37:34 PM »
Here is a growing list of plumbing forums we have participated in, currently belong to, moderate or admin across the internet
FindPlumbing.com - Joined back in 2002, participated in forum discussions relating to plumbing. Was promoted to forum moderator within one year. Became forum administrator this year and helped remove/rebuild website from massive advertising/spam infiltration. Website is slowly recovering and maintains 1st page status for keywords "Plumbing Forums" on Google. Hoping to bring back site to the traffic/member interaction it had years ago. Still an active member at this plumbing forum.
Plbg.com - Joined back in 2002, participated in plumbing discussions regarding products, work practices and hotly debated topics about workmanship issues spanning across the globe. Became an advisor and served a short tenure as moderator until longstanding members returned. A current member and advisor to this day.
MasterPlumbers.com - Joined back in 2002- Became a member, quickly became a moderator with John Aldrich (Septic Tank Yank) to help with the volume of traffic. Became forum administrator back in 2007, currently active as a member/administrator.
FindPlumbing.com - Joined back in 2002, participated in forum discussions relating to plumbing. Was promoted to forum moderator within one year. Became forum administrator this year and helped remove/rebuild website from massive advertising/spam infiltration. Website is slowly recovering and maintains 1st page status for keywords "Plumbing Forums" on Google. Hoping to bring back site to the traffic/member interaction it had years ago. Still an active member at this plumbing forum.
Plbg.com - Joined back in 2002, participated in plumbing discussions regarding products, work practices and hotly debated topics about workmanship issues spanning across the globe. Became an advisor and served a short tenure as moderator until longstanding members returned. A current member and advisor to this day.
MasterPlumbers.com - Joined back in 2002- Became a member, quickly became a moderator with John Aldrich (Septic Tank Yank) to help with the volume of traffic. Became forum administrator back in 2007, currently active as a member/administrator.
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